If you’d told me five years ago that I’d have a blog, I probably would have believed you. After all, I’ve always loved writing and seem to have an endless supply of things to talk about. But if you’d also told me that Laura Vanderkam would be a guest on that blog, I would have asked if you’d recently seen pigs flying by.
For those who’ve wondered why I started blogging in the first place, here’s the short answer: I had things to say! The long answer, though, is tied to a book. Back when Laura was collecting data for Tranquility by Tuesday, I signed up to be part of her study. Each week, we were asked to try one of her nine strategies for “calming the chaos and making time for what matters.” One of her tips stood out: Three times a week is a habit. That was the permission I didn’t know I’d been waiting for. I’d always imagined that blogging meant daily posts or nothing at all — but suddenly, three times a week was a habit?!
In 2021, I launched my blog. And then in 2023, I launched another one (not exactly in the plan, but sometimes you pivot).
And now? Laura is back! Again! Yup, she’s been a guest before, but this time she’s here to chat about something more specific — gratitude.
As a friendly reminder, here are my previous “Gratitude Guests”:

Q. Would you consider yourself an optimist, a pessimist, or a realist?
I would say that I’m a fundamentally optimistic person — I believe that it is often within my power to make good things happen in my life and in other people’s lives — but when it comes to scheduling, I’m a pessimist. I assume things will go wrong. This is why I often have multiple layers of childcare for high-stakes situations, I build in buffers for any bigger projects, and I’m constantly thinking through back-up plans. Maybe I won’t have to use them, but it’s nice to have them. Maybe this makes me a realist? [How about a cautiously optimistic realist?]
Q. You have five kids – do you think gratitude is something that can be learned, or is it more of an inherent trait?
I think people are who they are, and some folks are wired to be more critical or negative than others. That said, anyone can learn to be self-aware, and learn social skills, and can learn that even if you want something changed, it often helps to express thanks for something that is working first. I have tried to explain to some of my children that if your parents inform you that they have just booked a family trip somewhere you have been asking to go, the first words out of your mouth should not be “I’m not sitting in the middle seat on the plane.” It’s just not very motivational! [I’ve heard that exact sentence from my own kids too — it never lands well.]
Q. Do you have any daily or weekly gratitude practices? If so, please describe!
I have been tracking my time on weekly spreadsheets for 10 years now (really) and every Monday before I archive the previous week’s log, I take a minute to look it over. This practice started for accountability (do I like how I’m spending my time?) but over time it has evolved to a moment of appreciation for the good things that happened in the previous week. It’s not much time, but it’s nice, and it also has a practical benefit. When I see what I liked the previous week, maybe I can make that happen in upcoming weeks. [A great reminder we don’t always need to reinvent the wheel! If we find something we enjoy, why not lean into it?]
Q. How can we balance being grateful in the present while striving for change, self-improvement, and better circumstances?
I think it’s important to make use of the word “and.” A lot in life isn’t either/or. You can be grateful to have a reasonable job AND want to pursue one that pays better/is more flexible/is more interesting. You can be proud of what your body can do AND want to train to get stronger. There is no contradiction here. In general when we sense contradictions, it helps to zoom out and look at longer time periods. Perhaps you are grateful for the job you have right now and in a year you’d like to be grateful for a different job. [A great reframe!]
Q. What’s the most ridiculous or oddly specific thing you can think of being grateful for at this exact moment?

I’m actually answering these questions while on a flight to Hawaii. I’m grateful to be going to Hawaii…and traveling with the entire family, especially on a long flight, can be tough. I’m grateful that while the Newark to Honolulu flight was advertised as being 11 hours, it turned out to only be 10 hours in the air. So much in life is about expectations, so having the flight be shorter than anticipated feels like a huge win. (Note: It was still really, really long.) [I’ll answer this question too! I’m editing this blog post at lunchtime and I’m thankful that my Yeti is keeping my chai tea at the PERFECT temperature.]
Q. Is there anything you’ve learned to appreciate more as you’ve gotten older that you didn’t care about when you were younger?
It’s such a cliche that we take health and mobility for granted when we’re younger, but it’s true. Back in 2022, I started experiencing a really noticeable pain in my right leg when I’d walk any sort of distance. I was already dealing with back pain that often had me leaning sharply to the side by the end of the day, and I think something in my back was putting pressure on a nerve in my leg. It got to the point that walking down the street and waiting for one of my kids at the bus stop just hurt. This all came to a head in early 2024 when whatever was pressing on the nerve started pushing harder and this all went from a dull ache to more like “white hot poker.” I spent a week in bed, eventually being able to hobble around as the steroids I was prescribed took effect. It was a long recovery. It took months before I could bend over to empty the dishwasher. But over time, I did heal, and get stronger, and these days I can generally walk without pain. Every time I’m walking around and feeling decent, I try to remind myself to notice the absence of pain. Don’t take this for granted!
Of course I had to throw in a few fun get-to-know-her-better questions:
Q. Best money you’ve spent recently?
Since I work from home, and my house has been a long-term renovation project, contractor visits were really destroying my productivity. I wouldn’t want to start recording or do focused work during a window when they might come. So now we pay someone to come for a few hours a week to manage all projects involving the house. The other day there was a big conversation going on in the kitchen about the state of the refrigerator coils, and I was happily ensconced in my office, working on my book manuscript, and having nothing to do with it. This was money well spent. [Managing household tasks can border on a full-time job. Gold stars for finding a way to outsource this!]
Q. If you had to pivot to a completely different career tomorrow, what would you choose?

Do I know I’d get to be successful in this new career? I love performing, so potentially I’d like to transform my speeches into more of a one-woman show. Or I think I could have been a good economics professor. Management consulting sounds interesting because you work on lots of different projects, but I suspect I’d soon be asking to write the reports, or scheming to turn various research findings into a book…What can I say? I think I’m in the right job. [I don’t think I could have scripted a more “Laura Vanderkam” answer to this question.]
Q. What’s one compliment someone has given you that you’ve never forgotten?
I think we all like compliments that get at things that matter to us. So I printed up an email from someone recently noting that they’d read all my books, and they were impressed with how I still managed to say something new and different in each one. I also printed up an email from someone who listened to my podcasts and appreciated that they were succinct and didn’t seem to just be filling time. I don’t want to waste people’s time, and so I liked those compliments because they recognized that desire and affirmed that I was succeeding.
Q. Is there a “useless” piece of trivia or skill you’re secretly proud to know/possess?

Here’s some botanical knowledge: If you see a tree in the forest that’s covered with initials, that’s probably a beech tree. The smooth bark seems to invite vandalism.
It’s been fun diving further into gratitude, from big-picture wisdom to the little (occasionally quirky) things we tend to overlook. Sometimes gratitude looks like taking a moment to appreciate what’s going right. It doesn’t have to be big or elaborate, there are generally some little victories if we look for them — like a shorter-than-expected flight (always nice when you have a 5-year-old in tow), or a task well-delegated (though I suppose someone out there might enjoy discussing fridge coil maintenance).
Thanks again, Laura! I hope this conversation leaves everyone thinking about small moments we can be grateful for, even when some big things in life might feel chaotic.
Your turn.
- Any questions for Laura?
- What’s something you do three times a week that you now realize is a habit?
- What’s something small or oddly specific that you’re grateful for this very second (don’t overthink it!)?
- Have you ever had to balance gratitude with the desire for change? How did you handle it?
- What’s one compliment you’ve received that meant more than the giver probably realized?
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Heidi
Laura, I’m curious where you land in terms of family personalities. (No specifics necessary, of course.) Are your parents/siblings (if you have any)/husband generally optimistic, pessimistic, or realistic? And do you think that has influenced your own mindset over time?
I’m also interested to hear what you were like as a kid/teen! Have you always been a realist?
Laura
@Heidi – not sure about parents/siblings but my husband tends to be more optimistic on time, which explains why he is more likely to be late 🙂
mbmom11
The pne compliment that I remember, though it did not seem like one at the time, was when I told my friend about my newborn daughters down syndrome diagnosis. She was casual and said , “You’ve got this.” Um, I wanted more effusive support! As I thought about it,though, the fact that she replied without drama meant she had confidence in my abilities to handle the potential challenges.
Elisabeth
Sometimes the simplest affirmations can mean the most. At such an overwhelming time, some people manage to say the exact thing we need to hear. When I had a shock diagnosis once, the single best feedback I got was from someone I barely know (who is now a close friend) who didn’t say everything was going to be alright – she said: Call me any time, day or night if you need me to pray for you. That was it. And it had a profound impact on me.
Grateful Kae
I also love the 3x/week is a habit tip! That’s one I have to repeatedly remind myself about, but it’s so true!
The “I’m not sitting in the middle seat” comment made me laugh. I think it is…. hard, when our kids have and get sort of “everything” these days, to figure out how to cultivate gratitude within them. I really don’t want my kids to grow up spoiled! I like to think travel helps with this- seeing and experiencing different cultures, realizing everyone doesn’t have the same things we take for granted on a daily basis, etc. (My kids have traveled extensively in Mexico, including through some rural/poor areas, and it can be eye opening! Yet, I’m still not sure they really “get it!” I guess kids’ brains are just maybe not fully there yet? Hopefully it will all click eventually.) I do think there is an innate piece to this, too, like Laura says- people are wired differently, also.
I also really like that idea of “grateful…and”. I feel like that’s the missing piece when some people sort of reject the idea of gratitude practice because things are too bad/hard/etc. It may not feel right to express gratitude in the midst of whatever hard thing is going on, but saying “I’m grateful for (fill in the blank) AND I want/wish for things to be different” is helpful, I think. Both are true statements and like Laura says, they don’t have to contradict each other. Love that!
Laura
@Kae – yep the middle seat comment is a frequent thing around here…I think kids take a while to get it – we just have to be patient and help instruct them in the meantime. And try not to go crazy!
Elisabeth
To be fair, my husband HATES being anywhere but the aisle. One of the perks of being an adult is getting to choose to avoid that dreaded middle seat…
Elisabeth
We’ve had this conversation a lot! It is hard to balance wanting our kids to get to experience the benefits of what we can provide…while also wanting to balance that with gratitude and perspective. I think you’re wise to point out that we can only expect so much perspective at their age. Hopefully they’ll look back and better appreciate the incredible experiences they had (especially if/when they’re starting to create the same atmosphere for their own kids and realizing how much work and effort it is!)
Nicole MacPherson
Oooh I love the conversation around “and.” Yes! Things don’t have to be either/ or! We can feel two things at the same time – or multiple things!
Health and mobility, yes, oh yes. It’s something to be grateful for every single day!
M. Jean Pike
Enjoyed this muchly!
Jenny
Hi Laura!!! I feel like I know you because I listen to you every week on the Best of Both Worlds podcast. I’m getting more and more intrigued about time tracking. I know Kae (of Grateful Kae) does it, and she has also worked hard to cultivate a gratitude practice. It would be nice to look back on the week and think about what went right.
To answer Elisabeth’s question- I’m so grateful that I’m eating breakfast right now, in my own house, and I have wifi! Our internet was out for five days, and I’m REALLY appreciating having it back.
Laura
@Jenny – oh internet is key. We lost the WiFi at our house for a week last year and it was like we didn’t have running water…
Elisabeth
YOU HAVE WIFI AGAIN. Hallelujah. Phew. What a long, arduous wait that was…they’ll miss you at Starbucks.
Jan Coates
Grateful for wild blueberries/homemade granola/plain yogurt and oatmilk for breakfast, almost every day! And a compliment that means a lot to me: “I read your book (insert title here), and I loved it!” (not that I get a lot of those, but still…)
Elisabeth
As an artist (of any form and you create in so many ways) is there a higher compliment than knowing your work is being appreciated!
Yum. That breakfast very much sounds like something I’d love. I have sometime similar most days at my house, too.
Central Calif. Artist Jana
No questions for Laura; I’ve heard her name, glanced at her stuff, thought she was brilliant at many things but geared toward busy working moms rather than non-moms who work from home.
And a compliment for Elisabeth: your interview questions are thought-provoking and really enhanced by your italicized responses.
Elisabeth
I’m blushing, Jana!
Doing interview posts is one of my absolute favourite thing to do, and I think inserting my written commentary is the closest I can get to making it seem more like a conversation 🙂
Also, a plug that Laura’s work is soooo broadly applicable. I find it especially helpful as a busy mom, but in general for time management and habit formation, I very much recommend Tranquility by Tuesday (and no, she didn’t ask me to say that…it’s a great book!). I think she also is great at encouraging people to actually spend time on things they like doing, which is ultimately going to feed well into practicing a grateful life.
Michelle G.
This was another awesome interview! Yes to being grateful for health and mobility. I’m discovering that I can be grateful for the health and mobility I have right now, and stop comparing it to my younger self and feeling like I fall short. It’s much nicer to go through life feeling grateful.
Elisabeth
Such an important – and helpful – reframe! The physical things I complained about a decade ago, I’d love to have now. I HAD NO WRINKLES. MY ARMS WERE SO TONED.
And in another decade, I’ll look back on now with fond memories. So why not just hang out in the here-and-now and appreciate it, right?!
Ally Bean
I’m all about gratitude. Cannot imagine how I’d have gotten this far in life, a mostly happy one, without it. That being said the best most unexpected compliment I ever got was that I was sassy and snarky in the right ways. I sometimes feel like I might be too nice so to have someone tell me they could see my subtle subversiveness, my depth, made me, still makes me, happy.
Laura
@Ally – that is what makes a good compliment – you feel something is seen that you think matters and that you think might not be obvious. Sass is good 🙂
Elisabeth
Ally, once this year is up you must come be a guest again and talk all about your gratitude jar! I love the idea and what it represents.
I also find it hilarious that you were relieved and felt complimented to learn you weren’t “too nice.” Also, I love how sass does show some depth. As mother to a sassy child, I really do think they help the world go ’round.
Ernie
Hi Laura, I enjoyed this post, and I appreciate your thoughts. How old are your kids, and do you do anything specific in order to foster a sense of gratitude in them?
One thing I am grateful for today: a few hours ago I had my son drop me at my parents’ house before he went to work. I had a friend bring her daycare over to keep an eye on my daycare. I had my husband leave work on his lunch break. All of this so that I could take my mom, who has Alzheimer’s, on a walk (she lives a 10 minute walk from me) and gently guide her to a house in the next neighborhood in order to get her hair cut. She’s had her hair cut there before, but had been insisting that she didn’t want a haircut/doesn’t like to go places. The stars aligned and it all fell into place. Coach showed up when the haircut was over and drove my mom back to her house (more to save me time than for anything else). My mom was so pleased to have her haircut. A Jedi mind trick of sorts, but I was grateful that my plan worked and my mom was ultimately delighted. I took photos of her in the process of getting the haircut, hoping that showing her those in the future might make the thought of getting a haircut seem less scary/overwhelming.
Best compliment I’ve had recently was when a few people in my writing group offered high praise for the chapter I’d presented by saying it sounded like something out of a John Hughes’ movie. The other one that comes to mind is when a parent whose baby I babysit told me that her mom told her how wonderful it was that she’d found me to care for her little one. I feel like I give these little guys a home-away-from-home and I was touched that this grandma and the mom both appreciated that. (not all parents are so appreciative).
I workout daily, or almost daily, so that’s probably my most consistent habit. I cook dinner at least three times a week, usually more. 😉
Laura
@Ernie – they are 17, 15, 13, 10, and 5. I am not sure I am doing as much as I can to cultivate gratitude – I probably should do more.
I am so glad it worked to walk with your mom and get her haircut! It is good when things go well.
Suzanne
Hi Laura! Great post! Thanks for sharing Laura’s words, Elisabeth!
I love your “best money I spent” answer. Sometimes I feel guilty for spending money on things I “could” do myself, but outsourcing is sometimes most efficient, and allows experts to do what they’re good at while I devote time and energy to what I need to do.
Your point about not taking being pain-free for granted is such a good one. What a gift.
Laura
@Suzanne – focus and attention are valuable things for sure. I am glad to be able to spend my work hours actually working (well, most of the time. There are always still things that come up…).